Lots to be proud of - as you say there are a million multiverses where this game doesn't exist. And maybe just one where it does, lets be grateful to live in that one. Good luck with your next adventure and thanks for everything.
Hello, Mr. Zimmerman! I just wanted to shoot you a message about how incredible I thought the game was. The quality of the writing was not lost on me as I noticed how natural it all seemed, as well as enhanced by some of the best performances in the series' history. I was incredibly happy when Rhianna revealed during the presentation that you were brought back to helm this game, and after playing it, it was the absolute correct choice.
I do have a question about something that bothered me a little bit though and I think you might be the only person who is able to answer it. It's about one of the endings, the "Bad" one so to speak so if anyone here doesn't want *SPOILERS* then stop reading from here on. It's something that is starting to be asked by a pretty big part of the community so I would absolutely love if you could shed some light on the subject!
In Life Is Strange 1, there exists one timeline. When Max photo jumps, she stays in the moment briefly, can change a few things, then when she comes back she witnesses the result of her efforts while an "Auto-Max" has lived her life up until that point. The timeline is "rewritten", as signified by the "memory polaroids" burning up and being replaced.
In Reunion however, I'm not particularly sure how it works because the ending I got (foolishly enough I gave Max the photo without saving everyone), seemed to imply that if Max photo jumps (not rewind) back to try to save more people, she just disappears from that timeline and starts a new one while the old one still trots on without her, leaving a Chloe abandoned and heartbroken yet again, as signified by the photo of her alone in bed crying her heart out rather than her simply getting rewritten like say paralyzed Chloe in the first game.
This seems like an incredibly depressing thought and also ultimately implies that Max doesn't actually ever save anyone (?) seeing as the people in that timeline still remain dead (along with the first versions of Moses and Chloe you see in the very beginning of the game when Max comes back from New York). The impression I got however, is that she creates a new "branch" where she has a chance to save new people she has essentially "created", and only creates a "best world" for herself. Am I correct in this, or does the previous timeline she came from get ereased? At least that way there wouldn't be a Chloe who's relegated to misery for the rest of her life.
The picture after Chloe alone on the bed, is of Max looking out towards Caledon from where the game started, seemingly confirming that she did go back. However, the picture after that is of her and Chloe kissing, which I assume is Max keeping her promise to the Chloe she abandoned that she'll always find her, or a version of her which is really sweet but still I feel bad for the Chloe who's alone, and I don't really know how Max is able to go without thinking of the Chloe she left, especially after the whole thing with Chloe having horrific abandonment issues.
If you manage to save everyone, it's implied that Max does burn the photo herself, although the slideshow doesn't actually show her burning it. She only holds an unlit lighter next to it. Was the intention to keep it vague and just having Chloe decide for her be the "Best" ending for the girls?
I hope these questions aren't any bother to you and I hope you'll indulge me! I could talk forever about the moments I adored, like the shroomed up Max, or just both of the ending speeches which Rhianna KILLED. My favourite moment of them all had to be the trust fall bit. Absolutely masterfully pulled off.
Hey Andre! Thank you so much for the kind words and tough questions.
*SPOILERS*
I'm going to fall back on the exchange I wrote for the canoe scene, where Max and Chloe try to untangle this exact question. Max threorizes (I'm paraphrasing here) that we are all a kaledescope of the near-infinite possible realities we could embody at any given time.
So is Chloe left behind by Max going into the photo forever? That would for sure depressing. But remember that means there is now another Chloe who Max gets to save from the fire, right? So maybe that's the real Chloe. Also, don't forget about all those Chloe's who get run over by the train or shot in the junkyard (that's if you apply a multiversal understanding to Max's rewind, which I think is hella warranted).
I think Chloe is all of those Chloe's really, a Crisis on Infinite Chloe's. Just like all of us. And it's only Max who bears the terrible burden of being able to see and know all of the threads and make impossible decisions about them.
Heya and thanks for getting back to me so quick! I'm pretty stoked to have this conversation at all so thank you!!
I was actually thinking of that canoe exchange when I was trying to figure it out myself. You clever bastards knowing that we'd all try to get the kiss there no matter the cost, brilliantly handled!
The thing about the run over by a train/getting shot by an evil car bumper is that Chloe in all of those encounters are saved by Max manually rewinding time and not photo jumping, and the timeline gets overwritten in the first game rather than it creating a new seperate multiverse. Reunion is the first time in the series that Max's *photo-jumping* (not rewind) seems to leave an intact timeline behind with all the dead people she didn't save, i.e. Moses and Chloe from the beginning for example, are still dead. The exception being Bae/Bay I guess but that was cause of the entire time storm thing if we want to get sciency.
In this particular scenario, Max really had nothing to lose since pretty much everyone she cares about dies with her not there and she definitely wouldn't want to live in a world like that, but if she goes back and *saves* everyone except say two people, she never really saves them in the first place since it creates a new timeline. There's still a Max-less timeline remaining now with dead people, and the world going on without them. Ultimately she's only doing it for herself if say Chloe survives but she wants more people to be alive, and despite Max getting a "new" Chloe, the old one loses everything.
I quadruple read your reply (time travel, am I right?), I think what you're getting at is that we're all the same person within infinite possibilities, but at the same time if there is a Chloe who is now abandoned forever, wouldn't that warrant her being called an individual Chloe? Why would she not be deemed "real Chloe" anymore? Max and Chloe are forever, but while Chloe always gets Max who has a chance to just magically disappear from the universe, Max always gets *a* Chloe, and if the rules of Reunion's "stay in the photo forever" rule applies, it's a matter of just how many Chloes she decides to abandon, leaving a potential sea of abandoned Chloes in her wake depending on how much she decides to photo jump.
As a comic fan, I appreciate the Crisis on Infinite Earths reference a lot (!) and now it gets even more interesting, but at the same time I feel that comparison is a bit contradictory to what you said as Crisis is about the multiverse merging into a unified universe.
I guess the shortest way I can ask this is, is the Chloe who Max jumps away from going to live out a full life alone with her own individual heart break that Max chose to change universe, or is there just actively whichever timeline Max is perceiving (although she has seen possibilities)? As in it all merges Crisis style into a new universe when Max jumps?
Please don't apologize for being rigorous! I was glib with the Arroweverse thing, but I do think there's cause to interperate Max's rewinding as branching off a new multiverse each time she does it, if I remember my idiot's guide to quantum mechanics. It might be just one way to make sense of time travel and its paradoxes, but I'd say it's a valid lense to look at Max's unique perspective on the world, standing astride of time.
I guess that's the point. If the cat can be dead and alive at the same time, then Chloe can be grieving Max leaving her and reuniting with Max at the same time as well. I truly don't know if that makes it two (trillion) different Chloes or one Chloe composed of two (trillion) different quantum superpositions of possible Chloes at any given moment.
Also, while I sign off on your interpretation of what that photo of Chloe implies and I won't try to sell you on it being open ended or up for interpretation, it is just a single moment in time. What we don't know for sure, and can't know, is what comes after. For Chloe or for Max.
I'm gonna be so real here and say I sort of wish you did try to sell me on it being open ended as the main reason why I'm asking all this is because I've been having a big ball of anxiety in my gut for half a week and it feels kind of horrible lol. It's incredible how a piece of art is able to affect one so. I do like the little "single moment in time" though as that does sort of leave it open to interpretation regardless?
I'm not sure if you ever had a look at the comics, but they do something very similar in that Max does actually leave her own universe, but the entire time she's looking for a way to get back to *her* Chloe. The payoff at the end of it all is fantastic in my opinion, highly recommended read!
Another reason why I feel so bad about this particular situation is because while I don't doubt Max's ability to love a gazillion Chloes equally, if one got the ending (again, we're talking about one possible ending out of several) where Max jumps back, the Chloe she loses (we're going into semantics here if we're sticking to kaleidoscope we are all one of our quantom parts in an interdimensional, multiversal existence) is the one who Max had the most sincere reunion with. The one she truly never knew if she would ever get back.
Can I also take the time to add that while I didn't play the Bay route, I saw the bit where Max asks Chloe to tell her about her timeline until it becomes Max's and I don't know how you guys managed to hit it out of the ball park with so many fantastic yearning scenes.
Since we have covered so much, and the counter to "Max doesn't actually ever save anyone" is that we're all one and the same, Schroedinger's characters and all that in a way that us normal non-time-travelers cannot fully comprehend, is does Max actually know that she technically abandons a Chloe or is she still under the impression that she is strictly rewinding time?
This is mainly cause while again, I don't doubt Max's empathy to save some random person on the street (although double exposure strangely gives you the option to punch Aldermann in the face effectively sealing his death), I'd find it incredibly out of character for her to knowingly abandon her soulmate, even if it's just one part of her - especially so she can save one person she has no real idea who they are (Noelle, or poetry guy who's name I forgot, much like Max did). It also brings me to while I get that Max has a hero complex, I do wish since this is supposedly the last time we'll ever see her that she burned the photo herself just to show that she has in fact learned something.
I think the last two points I have are much more straight forward, in a multiverse such as this, this would also imply there are multiple Max'es right? Sure the one we're playing in Reunion is disappearing and adding more layers to all of our interdimensional beings but at the same time that leaves infinite possibilities of even Max to be a thing if I'm correct? As in comic timeline Max for instance.
The very last one is a retread from the first post in that I was just curious why Max staying up late at night, seemingly choosing to burn the photo herself (if you save everyone), didn't actually have the last image of the photo being on fire, if that was a direct choice or if it was supposed to just be clear that she's content and burns the photo.
ALL IN ALL, through time and multiverses, I do appreciate that literally every ending pans out with Max and Chloe ending up together, kaleidoscopian or not, with Partners in Time truly being a constant universal factor at this point much like the fire at Caledon (damn you, Safi although it did lead to one of my favourite scenes in the whole game with Chloe falling).
The issue now is that while before this game was released, the community was sort of wary of a Michel Koch-less Reunion between Max and Chloe. Now when it has seen what passionate people like you who respect the sanctity of one of the most impactful couples in gaming can do, some people are left wanting just a little bit more. Personally, I always hoped for an ending slideshow of them as old together holding hands or something but the ending montage of reused clips certainly did not disappoint.
I am really touched by that last note, thank you. Let me try to hit a few of the last points and see if I can help:
First off, I am truly sorry for the anxiety, but I can't walk back the rejection of ambiguity, and I suspect you are too thoughtful for that to have done the trick anyway. Life is Strange has never been a franchise to duck hard truths. Max's power is a kind of personal tragic burden and I would never want to tell a story about it that refused to ackowledge it as such. I guess I hope that whatever anxiety the story leaves you with is a worthwhile kind, that it speaks to something meaningful and worthy even if it is uncomfrotable.
"Not sure if you ever had a look at the comics" - They were in the office years ago and I remember leafing through and admiring the art but I did not read them before starting on reunion. It is very difficult to be original in this space and I didn't want us to unwittingly repeat any beats or canibalize anything. It would be nice to go back and read them now.
"I'd find it incredibly out of character for her to knowingly abandon her soulmate" - I think that's a compelling thought. It also cuts right into the final choice of the first game, so some players might see it different. In any case, I would absolutely agree that Max does not understand the full quantum impications of her powers. I'm not even sure that Moses does, and he's the space daddy. I'd absolutely sign off on the interprtation that a Max who leaves Chloe to go back and save lives in the fire fully believes she will return to "her" Chloe, even if she doesn't know how.
"this would also imply there are multiple Max'es right" - It's possible. It's also possible that Max exists as a kind of constant in the stream of space and time, like a boulder in a river.
"If that was a direct choice or if it was supposed to just be clear that she's content and burns the photo" it is meant to be clear that she burns the photo in this branch.
I am glad you inserted that bit into Reunion. It does sting, but I think that a good LiS game should sting too.
If anything I don't like the perfect-perfect ending in which everyone survives, Chloe gives picture to Max and Max ends up burning it.
My favorite ending is a non perfect ending in which Chloe burns the picture and takes weight off Max shoulders onto her own shoulders, enabling Max to finally be happy.
Having to do something wrong to be happy feels real.
Congrats to you and everyone on the launch! And also for bringing these characters and their stories in for a landing, which I'm confident you have done.
Lots to be proud of - as you say there are a million multiverses where this game doesn't exist. And maybe just one where it does, lets be grateful to live in that one. Good luck with your next adventure and thanks for everything.
Thanks Jon, exact same to you. It's been a great run.
Hello, Mr. Zimmerman! I just wanted to shoot you a message about how incredible I thought the game was. The quality of the writing was not lost on me as I noticed how natural it all seemed, as well as enhanced by some of the best performances in the series' history. I was incredibly happy when Rhianna revealed during the presentation that you were brought back to helm this game, and after playing it, it was the absolute correct choice.
I do have a question about something that bothered me a little bit though and I think you might be the only person who is able to answer it. It's about one of the endings, the "Bad" one so to speak so if anyone here doesn't want *SPOILERS* then stop reading from here on. It's something that is starting to be asked by a pretty big part of the community so I would absolutely love if you could shed some light on the subject!
In Life Is Strange 1, there exists one timeline. When Max photo jumps, she stays in the moment briefly, can change a few things, then when she comes back she witnesses the result of her efforts while an "Auto-Max" has lived her life up until that point. The timeline is "rewritten", as signified by the "memory polaroids" burning up and being replaced.
In Reunion however, I'm not particularly sure how it works because the ending I got (foolishly enough I gave Max the photo without saving everyone), seemed to imply that if Max photo jumps (not rewind) back to try to save more people, she just disappears from that timeline and starts a new one while the old one still trots on without her, leaving a Chloe abandoned and heartbroken yet again, as signified by the photo of her alone in bed crying her heart out rather than her simply getting rewritten like say paralyzed Chloe in the first game.
This seems like an incredibly depressing thought and also ultimately implies that Max doesn't actually ever save anyone (?) seeing as the people in that timeline still remain dead (along with the first versions of Moses and Chloe you see in the very beginning of the game when Max comes back from New York). The impression I got however, is that she creates a new "branch" where she has a chance to save new people she has essentially "created", and only creates a "best world" for herself. Am I correct in this, or does the previous timeline she came from get ereased? At least that way there wouldn't be a Chloe who's relegated to misery for the rest of her life.
The picture after Chloe alone on the bed, is of Max looking out towards Caledon from where the game started, seemingly confirming that she did go back. However, the picture after that is of her and Chloe kissing, which I assume is Max keeping her promise to the Chloe she abandoned that she'll always find her, or a version of her which is really sweet but still I feel bad for the Chloe who's alone, and I don't really know how Max is able to go without thinking of the Chloe she left, especially after the whole thing with Chloe having horrific abandonment issues.
If you manage to save everyone, it's implied that Max does burn the photo herself, although the slideshow doesn't actually show her burning it. She only holds an unlit lighter next to it. Was the intention to keep it vague and just having Chloe decide for her be the "Best" ending for the girls?
I hope these questions aren't any bother to you and I hope you'll indulge me! I could talk forever about the moments I adored, like the shroomed up Max, or just both of the ending speeches which Rhianna KILLED. My favourite moment of them all had to be the trust fall bit. Absolutely masterfully pulled off.
Hey Andre! Thank you so much for the kind words and tough questions.
*SPOILERS*
I'm going to fall back on the exchange I wrote for the canoe scene, where Max and Chloe try to untangle this exact question. Max threorizes (I'm paraphrasing here) that we are all a kaledescope of the near-infinite possible realities we could embody at any given time.
So is Chloe left behind by Max going into the photo forever? That would for sure depressing. But remember that means there is now another Chloe who Max gets to save from the fire, right? So maybe that's the real Chloe. Also, don't forget about all those Chloe's who get run over by the train or shot in the junkyard (that's if you apply a multiversal understanding to Max's rewind, which I think is hella warranted).
I think Chloe is all of those Chloe's really, a Crisis on Infinite Chloe's. Just like all of us. And it's only Max who bears the terrible burden of being able to see and know all of the threads and make impossible decisions about them.
Heya and thanks for getting back to me so quick! I'm pretty stoked to have this conversation at all so thank you!!
I was actually thinking of that canoe exchange when I was trying to figure it out myself. You clever bastards knowing that we'd all try to get the kiss there no matter the cost, brilliantly handled!
The thing about the run over by a train/getting shot by an evil car bumper is that Chloe in all of those encounters are saved by Max manually rewinding time and not photo jumping, and the timeline gets overwritten in the first game rather than it creating a new seperate multiverse. Reunion is the first time in the series that Max's *photo-jumping* (not rewind) seems to leave an intact timeline behind with all the dead people she didn't save, i.e. Moses and Chloe from the beginning for example, are still dead. The exception being Bae/Bay I guess but that was cause of the entire time storm thing if we want to get sciency.
In this particular scenario, Max really had nothing to lose since pretty much everyone she cares about dies with her not there and she definitely wouldn't want to live in a world like that, but if she goes back and *saves* everyone except say two people, she never really saves them in the first place since it creates a new timeline. There's still a Max-less timeline remaining now with dead people, and the world going on without them. Ultimately she's only doing it for herself if say Chloe survives but she wants more people to be alive, and despite Max getting a "new" Chloe, the old one loses everything.
I quadruple read your reply (time travel, am I right?), I think what you're getting at is that we're all the same person within infinite possibilities, but at the same time if there is a Chloe who is now abandoned forever, wouldn't that warrant her being called an individual Chloe? Why would she not be deemed "real Chloe" anymore? Max and Chloe are forever, but while Chloe always gets Max who has a chance to just magically disappear from the universe, Max always gets *a* Chloe, and if the rules of Reunion's "stay in the photo forever" rule applies, it's a matter of just how many Chloes she decides to abandon, leaving a potential sea of abandoned Chloes in her wake depending on how much she decides to photo jump.
As a comic fan, I appreciate the Crisis on Infinite Earths reference a lot (!) and now it gets even more interesting, but at the same time I feel that comparison is a bit contradictory to what you said as Crisis is about the multiverse merging into a unified universe.
I guess the shortest way I can ask this is, is the Chloe who Max jumps away from going to live out a full life alone with her own individual heart break that Max chose to change universe, or is there just actively whichever timeline Max is perceiving (although she has seen possibilities)? As in it all merges Crisis style into a new universe when Max jumps?
Again, sorry for the lengthy post!
Please don't apologize for being rigorous! I was glib with the Arroweverse thing, but I do think there's cause to interperate Max's rewinding as branching off a new multiverse each time she does it, if I remember my idiot's guide to quantum mechanics. It might be just one way to make sense of time travel and its paradoxes, but I'd say it's a valid lense to look at Max's unique perspective on the world, standing astride of time.
I guess that's the point. If the cat can be dead and alive at the same time, then Chloe can be grieving Max leaving her and reuniting with Max at the same time as well. I truly don't know if that makes it two (trillion) different Chloes or one Chloe composed of two (trillion) different quantum superpositions of possible Chloes at any given moment.
Also, while I sign off on your interpretation of what that photo of Chloe implies and I won't try to sell you on it being open ended or up for interpretation, it is just a single moment in time. What we don't know for sure, and can't know, is what comes after. For Chloe or for Max.
I'm gonna be so real here and say I sort of wish you did try to sell me on it being open ended as the main reason why I'm asking all this is because I've been having a big ball of anxiety in my gut for half a week and it feels kind of horrible lol. It's incredible how a piece of art is able to affect one so. I do like the little "single moment in time" though as that does sort of leave it open to interpretation regardless?
I'm not sure if you ever had a look at the comics, but they do something very similar in that Max does actually leave her own universe, but the entire time she's looking for a way to get back to *her* Chloe. The payoff at the end of it all is fantastic in my opinion, highly recommended read!
Another reason why I feel so bad about this particular situation is because while I don't doubt Max's ability to love a gazillion Chloes equally, if one got the ending (again, we're talking about one possible ending out of several) where Max jumps back, the Chloe she loses (we're going into semantics here if we're sticking to kaleidoscope we are all one of our quantom parts in an interdimensional, multiversal existence) is the one who Max had the most sincere reunion with. The one she truly never knew if she would ever get back.
Can I also take the time to add that while I didn't play the Bay route, I saw the bit where Max asks Chloe to tell her about her timeline until it becomes Max's and I don't know how you guys managed to hit it out of the ball park with so many fantastic yearning scenes.
Since we have covered so much, and the counter to "Max doesn't actually ever save anyone" is that we're all one and the same, Schroedinger's characters and all that in a way that us normal non-time-travelers cannot fully comprehend, is does Max actually know that she technically abandons a Chloe or is she still under the impression that she is strictly rewinding time?
This is mainly cause while again, I don't doubt Max's empathy to save some random person on the street (although double exposure strangely gives you the option to punch Aldermann in the face effectively sealing his death), I'd find it incredibly out of character for her to knowingly abandon her soulmate, even if it's just one part of her - especially so she can save one person she has no real idea who they are (Noelle, or poetry guy who's name I forgot, much like Max did). It also brings me to while I get that Max has a hero complex, I do wish since this is supposedly the last time we'll ever see her that she burned the photo herself just to show that she has in fact learned something.
I think the last two points I have are much more straight forward, in a multiverse such as this, this would also imply there are multiple Max'es right? Sure the one we're playing in Reunion is disappearing and adding more layers to all of our interdimensional beings but at the same time that leaves infinite possibilities of even Max to be a thing if I'm correct? As in comic timeline Max for instance.
The very last one is a retread from the first post in that I was just curious why Max staying up late at night, seemingly choosing to burn the photo herself (if you save everyone), didn't actually have the last image of the photo being on fire, if that was a direct choice or if it was supposed to just be clear that she's content and burns the photo.
ALL IN ALL, through time and multiverses, I do appreciate that literally every ending pans out with Max and Chloe ending up together, kaleidoscopian or not, with Partners in Time truly being a constant universal factor at this point much like the fire at Caledon (damn you, Safi although it did lead to one of my favourite scenes in the whole game with Chloe falling).
The issue now is that while before this game was released, the community was sort of wary of a Michel Koch-less Reunion between Max and Chloe. Now when it has seen what passionate people like you who respect the sanctity of one of the most impactful couples in gaming can do, some people are left wanting just a little bit more. Personally, I always hoped for an ending slideshow of them as old together holding hands or something but the ending montage of reused clips certainly did not disappoint.
I am really touched by that last note, thank you. Let me try to hit a few of the last points and see if I can help:
First off, I am truly sorry for the anxiety, but I can't walk back the rejection of ambiguity, and I suspect you are too thoughtful for that to have done the trick anyway. Life is Strange has never been a franchise to duck hard truths. Max's power is a kind of personal tragic burden and I would never want to tell a story about it that refused to ackowledge it as such. I guess I hope that whatever anxiety the story leaves you with is a worthwhile kind, that it speaks to something meaningful and worthy even if it is uncomfrotable.
"Not sure if you ever had a look at the comics" - They were in the office years ago and I remember leafing through and admiring the art but I did not read them before starting on reunion. It is very difficult to be original in this space and I didn't want us to unwittingly repeat any beats or canibalize anything. It would be nice to go back and read them now.
"I'd find it incredibly out of character for her to knowingly abandon her soulmate" - I think that's a compelling thought. It also cuts right into the final choice of the first game, so some players might see it different. In any case, I would absolutely agree that Max does not understand the full quantum impications of her powers. I'm not even sure that Moses does, and he's the space daddy. I'd absolutely sign off on the interprtation that a Max who leaves Chloe to go back and save lives in the fire fully believes she will return to "her" Chloe, even if she doesn't know how.
"this would also imply there are multiple Max'es right" - It's possible. It's also possible that Max exists as a kind of constant in the stream of space and time, like a boulder in a river.
"If that was a direct choice or if it was supposed to just be clear that she's content and burns the photo" it is meant to be clear that she burns the photo in this branch.
I am glad you inserted that bit into Reunion. It does sting, but I think that a good LiS game should sting too.
If anything I don't like the perfect-perfect ending in which everyone survives, Chloe gives picture to Max and Max ends up burning it.
My favorite ending is a non perfect ending in which Chloe burns the picture and takes weight off Max shoulders onto her own shoulders, enabling Max to finally be happy.
Having to do something wrong to be happy feels real.
Just hitting this with a little bump since it's the last pieces of questions I've got and figured you might've missed them ^.^;
Congrats to you and everyone on the launch! And also for bringing these characters and their stories in for a landing, which I'm confident you have done.
Thank you! Excited to hear your thoughts when you’ve played it.
Hi, nice to meet you! I finished the game in BAE format and I thought the reunion was great.
Like anyone else, I'm left with a few questions.
Is there any way to speculate about Diamond's call to Max?
Were there any issues with including Gwen in this game?
Lastly, and more specifically about the visions, will Safi and Chloe have to deal with these parallel visions for the rest of their lives?
As I wrote in my recent comment to a previous article, I love Reunion!
I do, however, have a question that is non-spoilery yet vital for my understanding of the game:
What's the deal with the custodian?
Hey, thanks so much! Those comments were so kind. Excited to check out your posts.
To answer your question with a question, have you ever been to Vermont? He's 100% Vermont.
Really all credit for the Custodian really goes to the actor and Zach, they were on another planet.
Sadly I haven’t, but Amsterdam probably matches it in terms of eccentric figures.
Funnily enough, his looks, way of speaking and overall oddness reminded me a bit of Christopher Walken.